Do You Have an HHO Cell in use?
Is it in a vehicle, lawn mower, or even a BBQ?
Show us the pics and give us the details!!
Is it a purchased unit? Or did you build it?
Lets get some numbers here, some vehicle years, models, mpg improvements, etc.
Lets get some proof! If you have one in operation, then your the expert here! pass on the knowledge!
yes a noticable inprovement in engine response. I would say the co-efficiency is change dramatically with the hybrid hho mix. Thanks
from moandrush
HHO RESULTS on a 1998 Subaru Outback:
I used a 2 cell system with wall plates in the generators. I have been studying and messing with different types of generators since about May of this year.
Here is some test results so far in PDF format
http://www.moandrush.com/hho/hhotest.pdf
I did not have anything on the 1st test to trick the O2 sensor. It did not arrive before the trip.
As far as cells I have always tested with 2 cell. On the 1st trip I had one cell made out of a mason jar with 3 SS wall plates with the middle plate being neutral. The second cell was made out of PVC and had 5 plates -n+n- .
I have since decided to remove the pvc cell ( even though it holds more water so I don’t have to fill it as often ) because I like to see what is going on in the cells to make sure all is well.
As far as amps I have not measured them but I do have a 20amp fuse so I know it has not gotten above that. I also try to keep an eye on the heat production. That is why I have put in the Neutral plates it seems to keep the heat down so it must also keep the amps down.
I have made a 3rd cell that I am hopefully going to test in the next few days. So I will be running 3 cells and they will be filled with distilled vingar and 1tsp of baking soda.
I also have an electrician friend who is going to help me tweak the O2 sensor. So hopefully that will help with the around town stuff. I still have a slight increase around town but nothing to compare to my highway test.
Hello,
I glanced thru your results and thru your notes, adding a O2 enhancement device will greatly help your results, we have available two typesm, the DEMSE and a D17, the DEMSE will control your MAP or MAF Sensor and the best results are with the D17 that controls the O2 Sensor(s) and enhances the signal to the computer, we are seeing as much as 50% increase in mileage using the D17.
Good Luck and stick it to OPEC as much as you can,
Tom
Tom,
Thanks for the input.
I have a O2 enhancer that I am using now. I just have to tweak it until I get it where it works best. Besides the O2 sensor do you think that it is necessary to add a MAP or MAF sensor. I am open to trying anything to get better gas mileage. Also my car has 2 O2 sensors one before and one after the CAT. I have only put the O2 sensor on the one before the CAT.
Also I would like to see anyone elses real world results to see what is really working for people and what is not. It seems I have been doing some reasearch for a little while now and not that many people post their results except for how well their HHO generator puts out HHO. Building HHO generators is nice but that does not save you gas unless you use it in a vehicle.
Happy driving
RUSH
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Tom, on August 21st, 2008 at 4:52 am Said: Edit Comment
I have been running my B&S 18.5HP Garden Tractor on HHO for 5 months, found that at 8amps the mower liked it, more power smoother run and exhaust was cleaned up, i use to get 2.5 mowings on a tank of gas (big yard) and with HHO added i get 7 mowings on a tank, about 60% increase, thats all i needed to see. I use HHO every time,I did have to get a larger battery to handle the demand.
Update for 8-24-08
I ran the Outback all week with normal everyday driving while running the generator.
247.1 Miles
10.66 Gallons
Total 23.18 Miles Per Gallon
That is an increase of about 21% over the week before when I ran the car all week without the generator.
We then filled the car up and did a little freeway trip. I increased the amount of baking soda to 1.5 TSP along with the jars filled with Distilled White Vinegar.
50.3 Miles
1.73 Gallons
Total 29.075 Miles Per Gallon
I am now going tweak the EFIE a little and see how it does for the week.
This is also updated in my PDF if you want to see all of my results so far.
http://www.moandrush.com/hho/hhotest.pdf
This is in reply to Tom from 8/21. You actually got a 180% increase, not 60%. 7 divided by 2.5 equals 2.8, which is a 180% increase. Great JOB!!!
I always wonder where people attended school, if I have a dollar and want to double my money I charge 200% (2x), 2 divided by 1 = 2, i.e 200%
The old math from 1957-1969, not what passes for math now days, tells me that he got a 280% increase (7 div 2.5 = 2.8).
Really really good job.
Now lets do that with the cars!!!!
and Jack I am not picking on you, just want to everyone on the same page, just cant remember what book I’m in.
from Victor Sloan, on October 1st, 2008 at 10:55 am Said:
I have purchased and installed a HHO fule cell from H2o 2 HHo. I only purchased the cell and installed the unit myself. I also added the required MAP controller. The cell is installed on a 1995 Astro Van I use as a work van. So far it appears I am getting about a 30% increase in mileage. From 17 highway miles to 22. This is enough of an increase that I plan to install a second cell on my wife’s 2004 Saturn Vue.
I use a SL50 oxy hydrogen generator on our 2006 Dodge Sprinter 2500. It produces roughly 1L/min HHO (or 2H2/O2 mixture). I get 31% saving on diesel.
For pictures showing where I inject HHO (and where you should not) and test results, please go to my website at http://autofuelsaving.com
I ordered the kit made by http://www.hydroxytech.ca and will test that on this same vehicle for comparison purpose.
Aubrey,
WOW! looked at those sites, and they do have impressive looking units and PRICES !
50L/hr is kinda misleading, everyone else is dealing with or testing for L/min, that works out to .83L/min.
But you cant kick 30+% improvement. what size engine is that?
I’m kinda leary of getting near your Van, that pressurized bomb under your hood only needs a spark or backfire !!!
All recommendations I’ve read say after the air filter and before the throttle plate, I guess I’d add to that, before the turbo too. keep a vacuum applied !!
The MAP & MAF sensors cant have a problem with moisture other wise the manufacturers warranty would tell us not to drive in the rain or when humidity is above 50%!